The majority of the time trans is a phase for children, unless of course you set your child up for permanent medical changes which make it impossible to easily desist from trans identity. Anyone who has followed 4thwavenow’s blog has seen other commenters have similar stories about their children and themselves. 4thwavenow’s daughter has desisted now and 4thwavenow discusses it in this wonderfully written article. In online circles like tumblr an “ex trans” person is not believed to exist, or is extremely rare, or told that its okay to detransition but to stop talking about it in the context of transactivism. Statistically, desisting from trans identity should be the main conversation when discussing if transition is appropriate for minors.
MOST IMPORTANT READ. This is the very thing I have been panicking about. Gender is reinforced yet again
i remember being a teenager. i truly believed everything i felt and thought about myself was rock solid and immutable, that the things i loved then would be the things i loved forever, that nobody understood i was the exception to “you’ll grow out of it”. we don’t let teens get tattoos - we should tread very carefully when it comes to every other permanent change.
Transitioning teenagers is a terrible idea.
have you ever considered that your trans children maybe perhaps stoped id'ing as trans because yall hate trans people
i almost cried reading this because this is what i had to do when my father wasnt the one looking after me… you ever consider that the reason your child stops acting like who they really are is because of the way yall treat them? the reason they just “move on” is because you arent supporting them and they feel horrible? just wondering why you hate trans people so much?
1. You’re proving the point of the post quite well, which is that no matter what data is available to prove that it is usually a phase online trans circles will reject it. You seem to reject the idea that anyone could think they are trans, and then think that they aren’t. If the truth of the matter is that most of the time transition would harm rather than help then people deserve to know and should adjust their treatment protocols accordingly. That’s the thing about science, its true regardless of how anyone feels about it. I know that you aren’t willng to even look at evidence that challenges your world view because you posted too soon after to have actually read it. which leads me to:
2. If you had you would see that the data about desisting is from studies of trans children whose parents sought help for them. That is not generally the trajectory for hateful, abusive parents. The majority on 4thwavenow also sought help and were disheartened with the lack of data supporting the medical transition approach. Who are you to say that these parents don’t care about their children, “hate” them, when they are doing due diligence in permanent medical decision making under the scrutiny of virtually everyone else they encounter? Is the “loving” response to give your kids whatever they want regardless of the long term consequences? Even if it leaves them sterile?
3. Despite having no proof that these parents are hateful of trans people in general you’ve asserted that having a transphobic parent would cause desistence in trans identity, even though the data cited is a long term follow up (meaning that adults that can make their own decisions continued to ID as not being trans). In fact, most people who thought they were trans as minors ID as lesbian, gay, or bisexual adults who are not trans. Is there no over lap between transphobia and homophobia among parents? Why would a majority desist in being trans but persist in being homosexual or bisexual? Interestingly, homophobic parents do not decrease the existence of homosexuality at all. Every attempt at trying to prove that parents can cause or inhibit homosexuality has fallen flat on its face, despite masive effort to do so on the part of religious organizations. What compelling reason would there be for parental disapproval to cause a majority desistence in gender identity but not sexual orientation?
Beautifully stated. Thank you. Logic is an endangered species amongst trans activists.
