From Dr. Lisa Littman, researcher conducting this study:
This note is to ask for your help in reaching out to possible participants for a study regarding the experiences of people who have desisted or detransitioned. The purpose of this research is...

From Dr. Lisa Littman, researcher conducting this study:

This note is to ask for your help in reaching out to possible participants for a study regarding the experiences of people who have desisted or detransitioned. The purpose of this research is to explore: 1) which factors may or may not be related to the development of and desistance from transgender identification; 2) whether or not individuals experienced changes in their sexual orientation during and after transgender-identification; and 3) what kinds of counseling and informed consent were received by those who sought medical care to transition. Specifically, we are looking for participants living in the United States who are: 18-33 years of age, previously identified as transgender, but do not currently identify as transgender. An eligibility screening interview will be conducted by videoconference call. Eligible individuals who are willing to participate will complete an online survey administered through Qualtrics. The study is approved by the Brown University HRPP.  

Please consider sharing the recruitment flyer on social media, with anyone you know who might be eligible, or with any community where there might be people who are eligible. If you have any questions about the study, please feel free to contact me at: Lisa_Littman@brown.edu

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Were you harmed by gender transition treatment you received as a minor?

Researchers looking into under-18 gender transition are interested in communicating (anonymously if requested) with people who believe they were harmed in any way by treatment they received as under-18 patients at a US-based clinic. Of particular interest: Patients who received care at a gender clinic affiliated with one of the medical centers below:

  • Children’s Hospital Los Angeles
  • Lurie Children’s Hospital
  • UCSF Benioff Children’s Hospital
  • Boston Children’s Hospital

If interested, please respond to this request by writing to the following email address: AffirmCareHarmResearch@protonmail.com. To participate, you will be expected to provide evidence (anonymized at your discretion) that you received services at one of the aforementioned clinics (or another affirmative-care clinic).

Please note: Researchers are aware of a previous effort by a rightwing organization to contact detransitioners. This request for participants is in no way affiliated with that prior effort.

Also please note: Hateful and/or troll responses will be deleted.

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“Identifying with” vs “Identifying as”

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Growing up I identified with the other little boys a lot, and with the other girls almost not at all. I identified with the rough and tumble lifestyle of the boys, and with their carefree adventuring. The girls in the neighborhood would tag along with the boys at times, but it was always tagging along. The girls were never the Captain. When the boys played street hockey, the girls came too, but they sat on the sidelines and cheered and talked. I played, of course, until I was about 9 years old and despite the extra pads and helmet my dad made me wear, he decided that it was too rough and that I couldn’t play with the boys any more. He was right, of course, the boys *were* rough, but so was I! I identified with the boys.

When I watched TV and saw a married couple, I always identified with the husband. I knew that when I eventually married that I wanted to be the one providing for the family, doling out wisdom and discipline, and being left alone to pursue my own intellectual interests whenever I wasn’t doing one of those things. That’s what I saw. I certainly didn’t identify with the idea of rearing the children and devoting my life to child, family, and house care. I wanted to be an independent person inside of a family support system. I saw that in the husband’s position in the family. I identified with the husband.

When I was a teenager and the young men around me were obsessed with music, body modification, and girls, I identified with them. I knew other young dykes, but the ones that I knew seemed more obsessed with being queer* than anything else, and I couldn’t relate. I identified with the simplicity of being an adolescent male, in part because really nothing was expected of them. I spent high school playing hardcore shows and avoiding other lesbians. At 15 my then-girlfriend starting calling me her boyfriend and I bound for the first time. My male friends treated me like “one of the guys,” which is to say, as a completely distinct phenomenon from the other females. My feelings of being different, of being “not like the other girls,” were reinforced with every turn. I was able to “opt-out” of the gross objectification of my female peers, largely through this understanding of my identification. I identified with my young male friends.

As a young adult, my identification with became my identification as. The lines had blurred, and I no longer saw the distinction – if I had seen it at all up to that point. I became one of the young men, instead of the one female allowed in our boys’ club. I was accepted with open arms, and my identity was affirmed from all directions in my social circle.

It wasn’t until many years later that I really had to start untangling the differences between identifying with the men in my life, versus identifying as a man. I think that if I had had Butch women or other young Butches in my life at some of these critical moments that I would have identified with them, instead of males. The sad fact is that Butch women and the Butch experience is really not something that is accessible or visible to the vast majority of our youth. As a young person, so much of one’s sense of self is shaped by one’s role models, that it seems no wonder that a young GNC female would feel identity and kinship with males, instead of with females, if no Butch or GNC females are available as role models. If the only people that talk about their bodies the way the way that a young GNC female experiences her body identify as men, then it is clear to see why more and more GNC females are identifying as men and transitioning.

I am most motivated by myself ten or twenty years ago to keep pushing and keep being visible. It is sometimes very hard to stand up and talk about my dysphoria or my transition, but I think it’s worth it for future generations. Our young Butches and GNC females need to see their lives and experiences reflected in a way that is positive about being female and accepting of one’s female body. I just want to be the example that I wish I had had as a child. If I can show even one young woman that she is completely in charge of her body and the way that she uses it to express herself, then I will have accomplished my goals. I think there’s a lot more than one out there, though. I think there are a lot of us that need this healing visibility. I will continue to put my words and face out there for as long as it takes.

I love, love, love this blog.

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startled-seedling:

What does a woman look like? How does she carry herself? How does she speak? How does she dress herself?
I am lost, my sense of self has floated away, far away. It’ stranded on a desert island and I have no compass nor map to locate it. I am paddling in the dark toward an unkown destination, without so much as a watch.
When I find that Self, that elusive woman, what will she be like? She may be just who I am now, only more confident. Perhaps she wears her hair long and unkempt, in long cotton skirts and never a bra in sight. Or it could be that she is loud and unhindered by any worry or thought, with spikey blue hair and 12 facial piercings. It is also possible that this woman is a lover of pant suits and makeup. I wish that I had some inkling of this person, so that I could be prepared when I arrive on the island to greet her.
When I do find her, will I have to chase her down? Will it be difficult to lose the “man” in me, to see myself, a woman, reflected in the water?
My friends, dear though they may be, will not know what to make of her. Will she spend long hours crying over their reactions, or will she brush it off without another thought?
Oh, how I wish I knew her. How I wish this long journey were over.
I long to be a whole person, complete and loved.

Reblogged with express permission of original poster. Signal boost.

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Parenting advice from a detransitioned woman. 

“For me, I first really discovered F2T transition on the internet.  I made lots of trans friends through the internet.  I learned about F2T “passing guides” on the internet. I bought my first chest binder on the internet. I got lots of positive feedback loops from other transitioning adolescents on the internet (including them saying things like “your parents just don’t understand/don’t support you, you can sue them if they don’t give in” etc).  I saw my first dose of F2T pornography on the internet.  I found a doctor that I could go see to give me hormone treatment on the internet….

“In closing, this trend is going to have a devastating impact on today’s youth about 10 years down the road.  These things are not very well studied, and we are/were their guinea pigs.  Be a role model, be a mentor, but most of all, don’t be afraid to be a parent.  Don’t allow yourself to be bullied into this.  This is your child’s health that is being played with, and your child’s health is not a game - it is life or death.”

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twentythreetimes:

I feel bad for your situation. I hear what you’re saying when you tell me that you’re worried about your daughter and you don’t know what to do. I hear that you care and that you’re searching for answers.

I don’t really have anything more to offer you than what is already on my blog. I have my…

twentythreetimes THANK YOU so much for writing this. You have really helped me learn and realize some things I was blind to. Of COURSE this would hurt. How could I not see that before?

I would like to delete the probably hurtful reblog you refer to in your eloquent post, but perhaps it’s best I leave it to serve as an example of what NOT to do as a gender-critical parent? 

And you’ve made me think harder about how the light of scrutiny should shine squarely on the adults–the psychiatric-medical establishment–that encourages kids to transition in the first place. I just know that so many of them have drunk the Kool-Aid–and those who haven’t are afraid of rocking the boat. 

In a lot of ways, parents have simply abdicated responsibility, closed their eyes to the whole thing. The kids are having to figure everything out for themselves. There is also the idea that parents like me are just old fashioned and out-of-step and we should keep our noses out of it. 

One other thing: As you are probably well aware, young people tend to listen to each other–not the adults in their lives. One reason you are probably hearing from some worried parents is that they feel their kids might be willing to learn something from a peer that they would entirely blow off from a parent or other adult.

I very much appreciate you taking the time to write this post.  I know of several other parents who will find it helpful, too. I actually started this blog to attract other adults who would have an interest in challenging the dominant paradigm; but clearly, that must be done with tact and sensitivity.

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4thwavenow:

roslynholcomb:

4thwavenow:

Tomboys, unite.

I read these notes especially the kids talking about their parents and it sounds like something out of another century. It’s incredible to me that with all these fabulous female athletes around that parents are still telling their kids that being a female jock is “masculine.” Or that no guy will like them. It’s crazy because I remember my sister being a phenomenal athlete back in the 70s and it was no big deal. The softball team she was on was even called The Tomboys. Yeah, we had to wear froufrou dresses, but that was only for Easter or Christmas. The rest of the time we wore what all the kids wore; jeans and t-shirts. My niece who grew up in the 80s was a terrific athlete as well. Played on the boy’s basketball team, and no one made a thing of it except that she was small and everyone was afraid she’d get hurt. 

So what in the holy hell has happened in the past few decades that we now have folk talking like it’s the 1950s again? (Not even the fifties because my aunt was a “yardman” back then because the pay was better than being a maid and she preferred to be outside, and no one called her a man, though she wore overalls every day and was a butch lesbian.) Is this some kind of backlash against feminism? Because it’s depressing as all hell to read these posts where a girl thinks because she likes science and jeans that she’s somehow not a girl. People have personalities. I didn’t like dolls either. My mama loved them, but never said we had to be boys because we didn’t. Something has gone terribly awry here and it’s just sad to read about.  

Every day I wonder how we went so far backwards in terms of women’s liberation. If you’d told me in 1985 that this is where things would be 30 years later, I wouldn’t have believed it.

The scary thing is, it happened to quickly. While women were being distracted by all manner of fuckery our daughters have been left to fend for themselves. And yeah, here there be dragons. 

I guess it’s sort of like “hipster racism.” We had a generation of parents who believed that being “colorblind” was the way to deal with racism. Unfortunately, that’s not how it works. You have to openly address differences and explain to your children why treating people differently because of them is wrong. If parents simply accepted their sons who want to wear nail polish and daughters who want to play baseball as they are there would be no “dysphoria,” because it seems in all these cases thus far the so-called gender norms are being policed by their own parents. 

When my son was about a year and a half old he asked for a baby doll we saw in the discount bin at a big box store. It only cost $5 so I got it for him. He loved that doll and though I thought his dad might have problems with it, he was like “how else is he going to learn how to be a dad?” And that was that. He also had a tea set and loved to have tea parties. He played sports and other people often comment that he’s “all boy,” (yeah, that’s annoying) yet he can sing all the songs from Frozen and berated me for calling it a “girl movie,” (I know, bad feminists, but dammit I can only listen to those damned songs for so long.) 

In other words, it would seem to me that maybe dysphoria, at least in these very young kids could be very much an issue with parents and parenting. It’s typical at these ages to rebel and reject parental norms. If parents are very focused on gender norms, it may well be possible that dysphoria is informed by that. Sounds to me that if these posts are valid, rather than treating the kids with drugs and surgery, we might want to do some type of treatment with the parents instead. 

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4thwavenow

4thwavenow:

I have been spending time reading the thoughts and experiences of FTMs in their teens and early 20s, in their own words, on their own blogs. In many cases, once past the initial euphoria of transition, I’m seeing a lot of despair, a lot of “this isn’t how I thought it would be.” Dysphoria…

twentythreetimes said: why would you think doctors care?

I misspoke. All therapists and doctors don’t care, I’m sure, but I know some do. I’ve talked to a few, and I’m acquainted with one MD sociallly who is a “gender” specialist. She is, in general, a kind person and believes she is doing the right thing. In your experience, would you say that most of these professionals actually don’t care? It’s not a rhetorical question–I’d really like to know your thoughts. 

I have talked to one psychotherapist who is very gender critical, but feels she has to hide it because every other therapist she knows has bought into the narrative, and to openly challenge the current paradigm could put her career in jeopardy.

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