Anonymous asked:

Trans men going through a hysterectomy will not experience long term effects of menopause because they supplement testosterone in their body. As long as there are healthy levels of T, they are not at risk of osteoporosis or heart disease or other menopausal symptoms. Menopause happens because of a lack of estrogen production in females but HRT is basically countering that (be it estrogen or testosterone). Don't spread misinformation.

*****************

Thank you for writing your comments in a respectful way. Testosterone is a high-risk factor for heart disease, apart from whether there has been a hysterectomy or induced menopause or not, both in men and transmen. It’s one of the warnings given to transmen who are taking “T” and it’s something that has to be monitored by one’s MD. Also, many of the comments I’ve received about hysterectomies have addressed other consequences of the procedure apart from menopausal-induced changes. 

I’d like other readers of this blog to weigh in on Anon’s points. Anyone?

FTM hysterectomy trans hysterectomy testosterone heart disease testosterone effects gender critical parenting

Anonymous asked:

Re: hysterectomies - regardless of whether one may/may not have children later in life, we all need to talk about the horrible side effects of having a one. If you get the ovaries out as well, what it means (menopause, increased risks for heart disease, osteoporosis, etc.). Even just the uterus out - incontinence issues, etc. That vaginal mesh crap that is giving all kinds of women all kinds of debilitating chronic pain. Hysterectomy is a BIG DEAL, apart from whether one will have kids or not.

Another person weighing in on the ill effects of hysterectomy. A woman who decides she is a “transman” and has her reproductive organs yanked out still can’t escape the consequences—whether she “identifies” with her own innards or not.

FTM hysterectomy trans hysterectomy gender critical parenting

Baby pouches & egg bags

Anon said: re: hysterectomies. If a woman also gets her ovaries removed, she WILL go through menopause. It seems like young FTMs getting this extremely drastic surgery is just another manifestation of how little we are taught about our bodies. A uterus isn’t just an empty baby pouch, ovaries aren’t just egg bags, our reproductive system has a function beyond being a placeholder for a potential fetus
**********************

From what I understand, testosterone treatment for FTMs is so toxic to the female reproductive system, the decision to have a hysterectomy, sometimes leaving the ovaries intact, sometimes not,  is a way to do away with the problem.

It’s one of the reasons why “just trying T”–which some women wanting to transition talk about doing–is a terrible idea; testosterone sets in motion a cascade of effects, including chronic yeast infections, uterine adhesions, and a raft of other problems that I hope some of the detransitioned women (or current FTMs?) reading this blog can tell us about.

gender critical FTM hysterectomy trans hysterectomy testosterone effects gender critical parenting
roslynholcomb-deactivated201803
Young FTMs and hysterectomy: “It’s all stagnant down there.” 4thwavenow.tumblr.com

roslynholcomb:

4thwavenow:

roslynholcomb:

4thwavenow:

A few people who follow this blog expressed surprise that young women who are “transitioning” would choose—and readily receive from surgeons—complete hysterectomies. Making a permanent decision to have or not have children at such a young age seems…hasty.

While I had viewed 10 or so YouTubes from…

So no one explained to them the possibility of incontinence and a plethora of other issues from a hysterectomy? I mean, don’t get me wrong, if they’re going to take testosterone, then yes, it’s probably better to not have a uterus. But the uterus is not just an empty box waiting for a baby to be inserted. It’s a vital organ and part of a woman’s system. Removing it can result in organ displacement, vaginal collapse and goodness knows what else. 

I guess if you have thoroughly convinced yourself that you no longer have a “woman’s system,” you just want to be rid of all that internal garbage taking up space. Dissociation from biological reality is the hallmark of “transition.” I have watched enough of these YouTube confessionals to know that, not only do they not “identify” with their female organs, they see them as an enemy that “triggers” dysphoria. Menstruation, in particular, is frequently experienced as a horrible cross to bear every month.

Oh, I get that. My question is where in the hell do they find doctors willing to remove healthy, FUNCTIONAL organs to treat a MENTAL disorder?!? Your uterus has many other purposes, and there are far less drastic ways to get rid of a menstrual cycle than by taking out your internal organs. Are they having their ovaries removed as well? 

Yeah, that’s my question too, and I sure as hell am not justifying it. I place the blame far more on the medical establishment for enabling this than on the patient. I’m sorry, but how is this REALLY different from body dysmorphic disorder, where the patient wants (say) their arm cut off because they don’t “identify” with it? 

I can’t help but think of lobotomy, which was practiced as a solution to a variety of psychological issues. The procedure was so well respected for a time that its inventor, Egas Moniz, won the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 1949. Lobotomy at least sometimes “worked.” The emotional pain and behavioral issues some patients experienced were reduced. But at what price? Society realized the price was WAY TOO HIGH and now lobotomies are considered barbaric. 

There are treatment trends in medicine that wax and wane. Is it only a matter of time before surgery and hormones as treatment for gender dysphoria are also discredited?

As far as removing ovaries, it seems some are keeping them, some not. The ones who opt for removal then have to supplement their testosterone with estrogen. 

roslynholcomb-deactivated201803 gender critical FTM hysterectomy trans hysterectomy modern day lobotomy body dysmorphic disorder gender critical parenting

Young FTMs and hysterectomy: “It’s all stagnant down there.”

A few people who follow this blog expressed surprise that young women who are “transitioning” would choose–and readily receive from surgeons–complete hysterectomies. Making a permanent decision to not have children at such a young age seems…hasty.

While I had viewed 10 or so YouTubes from FTMs reporting on their sterilization, I never actually googled “FTM hysterectomy,” but did so today after reading some of your comments. Guess how many videos came up in the search? 

2720. 

Most of the video titles have the words “recovery” or “post-op” in them as well.

But, as one FTM said in a post-op video, “it’s all just stagnant down there” when you’re taking testosterone.

Might as well drain the swamp?

gender critical FTM hysterectomy trans sterilization trans hysterectomy gender critical parenting
vulvapeople

Anonymous asked:

re: your post on Blake Brockington's suicide, something that the trans community absolutely refuses to discuss is how much they themselves promote the "transition or suicide" narrative to young gender-questioning people. the blog "Transgender Reality" is documenting cases on reddit where often very young teenagers are egged on by peers and older trans people to go from "I don't really feel like a boy/girl" to "if I don't get hormones now I'll kill myself" in literal days. it's frightening.

4thwavenow answered:

I have read every post on “Transgender Reality,” and there is no question that some in the transgender community are heavily indoctrinating young teens who just have questions about their identity and gender. I think kids who are socially isolated are especially vulnerable to online pressure.

 I agree—it is terrifying, and the most scary thing is that very few people are raising the issue as you just have. Thank you. Here is a link to the site for those who are not familiar with it:

http://transgenderreality.com/

vulvapeople:

But back on the topic of sterilizing trans kids.  The trans activist community at large seems to have a very narrow and selfish viewpoint on these issues.  I’ve seen too many examples of this not to conclude it’s a trend, namely that trans people want transitioning, they want it now, who are you to question it, so what if it might harm someone else.  Basic medical ethics dictate that you don’t push something that might harm 95 percent of your patients when only 5 percent benefit.  If most of these kids, as adults, regret being sterilized, there’s going to need to be a serious revision of guidelines for treating trans kids, and those trans people who are angry that the medical establishment “knows better” than them are going to have to learn to deal with it (or they’re going to have to self-treat illegally).  Them’s the breaks.

And I really hope, actually, that all of this is going to work out wonderfully for everyone, that none of these kids are going to regret their decision, that none of them are going to come looking for a medical malpractice payout, regardless if they actually regret transitioning, but I’m also kind of naturally a pessimist.

What do we want? Sterility! When do we want it? NOW!

vulvapeople gender critical trans sterilization trans hysterectomy gender critical parenting
wandering-thoughts-rfv

Anonymous asked:

re: your post on Blake Brockington's suicide, something that the trans community absolutely refuses to discuss is how much they themselves promote the "transition or suicide" narrative to young gender-questioning people. the blog "Transgender Reality" is documenting cases on reddit where often very young teenagers are egged on by peers and older trans people to go from "I don't really feel like a boy/girl" to "if I don't get hormones now I'll kill myself" in literal days. it's frightening.

4thwavenow answered:

I have read every post on “Transgender Reality,” and there is no question that some in the transgender community are heavily indoctrinating young teens who just have questions about their identity and gender. I think kids who are socially isolated are especially vulnerable to online pressure.

 I agree—it is terrifying, and the most scary thing is that very few people are raising the issue as you just have. Thank you. Here is a link to the site for those who are not familiar with it:

http://transgenderreality.com/

avaritia-nyx:

roslynholcomb:

4thwavenow:

vulvapeople:

kiwipally:

Do we, as multiple societies, need to have a discussion on how the internet affects young people to such a marked degree? My society has rules on how advertisers are and are not allowed to market to children using television, but the internet seems to be much more influential and is completely unregulated.

I don’t know if there’s a way to regulate the Internet reliably though.

The only alternative I can see is from the medical side, trying to make it standard that a kid who seems to be intentionally threatening suicide to get what he/she wants is denied transitioning until that behavior stops.

Although, given that one of the preeminent gender therapy pediatricians in the U.S. has been abandoning long-accepted standards for treatment of dysphoric children (administering cross-sex hormones to kids as young as 12, against the accepted standard of 16), I’m not really sure how well that will work either.

In the end, I think this is likely to be “settled” in civil court when adults start suing doctors for sterilizing them as children.

I think there may well be lawsuits in the future brought by people sterilized as children, but I also have to wonder about young adults over the age of 18 (the age of consent in the US for medical decison-making) and into their early 20s, making such permanent choices. I heard from a parent recently who only learned of her 21-year-old daughter’s/FTM’s complete hysterectomy via her offspring’s YouTube channel. I’m sure there are many similar stories.

As far as I (used to) understand it, young adults are generally discouraged from making decisions about future child-bearing, the conventional wisdom (until recently?) being that those decisions might change; destroying one’s opportunity to reproduce is not a decision to be made in youth unless there is a compelling reason to do so (e.g., it would be dangerous to get pregnant due to health reasons). While it may not be lawsuit territory, it seems strange that many doctors seem to be going along with these sterilization decisions, if the confessional YouTube evidence (and I’ve watched many of these videos) is to be believed. 

I have a friend who, at 23, was certain she didn’t want to bear children and planned to get her tubes tied. She is now (at 41) the excellent and proud mother of a 9-year-old son. He is the light of her life, and she is very glad she didn’t go with her original plan. I just generally don’t understand why, on the one hand, neuroscience has reached a consensus that neuronal adolescence lasts until the mid-20s, but on the other, we are allowing younger and younger people to make such monumental, permanent medical decisions.

That may well be a side-effect of the child-free movement. I’ve heard many of them complain that doctors won’t sterilize them in their twenties. Of course, most of them are not looking for a full hysterectomy, just tubal ligation, so I could be wrong. 

The case of this FTM was the first time ever I heard about a woman successfully have a sterilization surgery performed on her without having a bunch of kids already. So a woman can only have control over her uterus if she claims to be a male? Damn…

Orwellian. I have watched at least 10 FTMs on YouTube discussing their hysterectomies.  GoFundMe pages are also common for women who can’t afford the various surgeries.

wandering-thoughts-rfv teen transition trans hysterectomy gender critical parenting